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FYI ... concerning a Solid Copper Vacuum Chamber

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Subject: 	Re: Fwd: Re: copper plating of vacuum chamber
Date: 	Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:10:59 -0700
From: 	Dimo Yosifov <dyosifov@triumf.ca>
Organization: 	TRIUMF
To: 	George Clark <gsclark@triumf.ca>, Geoff Hodgson <ghodgson@triumf.ca>

Hi George,
I suggest welding, full penetration, done from outside.
But, attention should be given to the weld area between the outside weld seam and the flange's weld joint. for the flanges - I prefer the welding to be done from outside-full penetration as well. If necessary a rim-like feature can be machined to the flanges. The reason for full penetration welding is to eliminate any clevises, which will accumulate grim during the manufacturing/UHV cleaning process.
For a piece this size a vacuum braising oven will be difficult to find.
I would appreciate if I have the latest set of drawings for a review of the manufacturing process.
Thank you,

On 4/29/2016 11:41 AM, George Clark wrote:
Dimo & Geoff,

For the solid Copper chamber, brazed or welded?


On 4/28/2016 2:57 PM, Geoff Hodgson wrote:

OFHC (oxygen free high conductivity) copper is regarded as a UHV
compatible material, but this is for solid metal, not electroplated.
Dimo and I spoke about the finish of electroplated copper and are not
convinced that it is suitable for 10-8 vacuum.  I will look into
databases from other institutes to see if they have information on
electroplated Cu, and what the limitations are.  As an aside, has vapor
deposited Cu been examined?

We think that a better choice would be for a solid OFHC copper chamber.
It meets vacuum, magnetic and structural requirements.  It will be more
expensive than aluminum, but will eliminate the process of
electroplating.  Machining would be similar to aluminum, welding may
also be of similar cost.  Yield strength is lower, so the chamber would
have to be thicker.  Explosion bonded Cu-304L flanges are available.

I will do further research on electroplating of Cu.


On 28/04/2016 1:33 PM, George Clark wrote:
Could you write to us about the vacuum
qualities of Copper.

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Subject: Re: copper plating of vacuum chamber
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:45:30 -0700
From: Marco Marchetto <marco@triumf.ca>
To: Friedhelm Ames <ames@triumf.ca>, George Clark <gsclark@triumf.ca>

I think this is a very good alternative, a (most likely) cost
effective way to mitigate the risk of going with an aluminum chamber.


On 4/28/2016 12:36 PM, Friedhelm Ames wrote:
Hi Marco, George,

there may be another option instead of gold plating the aluminum we
may use copper like in the rf cavities. Se link below.



Dimo Yosifov
Group Leader | Vacuum Systems

Canada’s National Laboratory for Particle and Nuclear Physics
4004 Wesbrook Mall, Vancouver, BC  V6T1A4